tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026214128770026952.post7180453921520279492..comments2023-12-19T22:53:18.256-08:00Comments on the Happy Medic: You Make the Call...Opposing Engine CompaniesThe Happy Medichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11521335229435386281noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026214128770026952.post-69387625300838005352009-03-24T11:45:00.000-07:002009-03-24T11:45:00.000-07:00Not a fire guy at all, but I would let E-2 go to t...Not a fire guy at all, but I would let E-2 go to the fire. Reason being that if E-1 parks right, they can block off the road to all other traffic, allowing the ladder truck to get in easier by going the wrong way down the now-empty one-way road.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02862712604547228513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026214128770026952.post-19399167493348701492009-03-21T09:31:00.000-07:002009-03-21T09:31:00.000-07:00The first in engine proceeds to the fire, second e...The first in engine proceeds to the fire, second engine secures the water supply. Make sure there is enough room for the ladder companies to set up operations.<BR/><BR/>If the second due engine arrives first, and only if that second due engine is clearly first then go to Plan B.Michael Morsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07451637745981389920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026214128770026952.post-21603112000669288022009-03-20T18:37:00.000-07:002009-03-20T18:37:00.000-07:00My approach would have been considering placement ...My approach would have been considering placement of the ladder and which way they would be expected to enter the scene. Engine 2 should also have been keeping that in mind. I am assuming that in your illustration, Ladder 2 was arriving from the expected direction. My answer to my driver is to get on the radio and order Engine 2 to stop, let Ladder 2 pass them for access, and then for them to lay in behind the ladder, Engine 1 will be going straight in.<BR/><BR/>Engine 2, being the normal second-due, should expect to play the second-due role (water supply), unless discussion over the radio changed those roles while en route. In your scenario, that discussion never took place, so Engine 2 will still play the second-due role. Deviation from that will be corrected by Engine 1 in its first-due role as size up-search and initial IC.<BR/><BR/>- F4Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026214128770026952.post-85514809413047425262009-03-20T14:54:00.000-07:002009-03-20T14:54:00.000-07:00Train A leaves Chicago at 4:15 traveling due south...Train A leaves Chicago at 4:15 traveling due south. Train B leaves Seattle and heads due east. At what point does MC begin to care about either train when he will be at the PD watching the pretty fire on the morning news?<BR/><BR/>kisses...MCMotorCophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06911811761776567187noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4026214128770026952.post-41436246667202732009-03-20T08:11:00.000-07:002009-03-20T08:11:00.000-07:00I'm almost afraid to speak my mind. I'll state my...I'm almost afraid to speak my mind. I'll state my logics as they pops in my mind. Maybe I'm watching too much Gordon Ramsey's shows? :D<BR/><BR/>Where's communications??? Quick, establish WHO'S the IC. Why nobody is trying to establish IC BEFORE you all arrives to the fire scene? I tend to look at getting local station where fire is to be IC. If other station arrives first, check to see if local want to be IC once they arrives. I don't care who gets there first. I don't care who's who. What I care about is TEAMWORK. If you find one-way street empty... wonderful and consider yourself fortunate while you all work together to keep that street blocked from general public access. Get PD to do that if you could. I'd then have both engines to connect to their own respective hydrants and lay hose toward the fire, sticking to the side of where hydrants are located. I'd allow vehicles that's not a ladder to part partly on sidewalk to allow room for ladder truck to access closer to the fire on that narrow road. That is, if it is permitted for heavy truck to park partially on sidewalk. I don't know what I'd do if hydrants are on same side of street where burning structure is located (you may wished you could move hose if fire spreads sufficiently).<BR/><BR/>Feel free to correct me in anything!!Jeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18260565912121281762noreply@blogger.com